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| Line | Speaker | Claim | Verdict | Evidence |
| 9 | SARAH | EMA's reflection paper on AI across the medicinal product lifecycle is final since September 2024. | SUPPORTED | Cover: '9 September 2024 … Final version adopted by CHMP 9 September 2024' |
| 49 | SARAH | EMA's reflection paper uses the terms high patient risk (systems affecting patient safety) and high regulatory impact (substantial impact on regulatory decision-making), rated separately. | SUPPORTED | EMA 2.2 lines 157-159: 'high patient risk for systems affecting patient safety … high regulatory impact … where impact on regulatory decision-making is substantial' |
| 49 | SARAH | EMA's paper says the level of scrutiny and the expectation of early interaction depend on both patient risk and regulatory impact. | SUPPORTED | EMA 2.2 lines 171-173: 'The level of scrutiny depends on the level of risk and regulatory impact posed by the system'; 2.4 line 392 on timing of interactions |
| 49 | SARAH | EMA's paper says the degree of risk depends not only on the AI technology and data quality but also on the context of use and the degree of influence the AI technology exerts. | SUPPORTED | EMA 2.2 lines 163-164, verbatim |
| 51 | SARAH | EMA's paper says that if an AI system is expected to impact, even potentially, the benefit-risk balance of a medicinal product, early regulatory interaction is advised, and the level of scrutiny depends on the level of risk and regulatory impact. | SUPPORTED | EMA 2.2 lines 170-173: 'expected to impact, even potentially, on the benefit-risk balance … early regulatory interaction is advised' |
| 51 | SARAH | EMA's paper says it is the responsibility of the applicant or manufacturer to ensure that all algorithms, models, datasets and data processing pipelines are fit for purpose. | SUPPORTED | EMA 2.2 lines 175-177: 'responsibility of the clinical trial sponsor, marketing authorisation applicant/holder or manufacturer to ensure that all algorithms, models, datasets, and data processing pipelines used are fit for purpose' |
| 51 | SARAH | EMA's paper says 'these requirements may in some respects be stricter than what is considered standard practice in the field of data science'. | SUPPORTED | EMA 2.2 lines 178-180, verbatim |
| 55 | SARAH | EMA section 2.3.6 says AI in manufacturing, including process design, scale-up, optimisation, in-process control and batch release, is expected to increase. | SUPPORTED | EMA 2.3.6 lines 339-342: 'process design and scale up, process optimisation, in-process quality control and batch release is expected to increase' |
| 55 | SARAH | EMA section 2.3.6 says model development, performance assessment and lifecycle management should follow quality risk management principles considering patient safety, data integrity and product quality, and that ICH Q8, Q9 and Q10 should be considered. | SUPPORTED | EMA 2.3.6 lines 342-345 ('For human medicines the principles of ICH Q8, Q9 and Q10 should be considered') |
| 55 | SARAH | EMA section 2.3.6 uses the words 'awaiting revision of current regulatory requirements and GMP standards'. | SUPPORTED | EMA 2.3.6 lines 345-346, verbatim |
| Line | Speaker | Claim | Verdict | Evidence |
| 4 | SARAH | FDA has adopted context of use for AI in drugs and biologics. | SUPPORTED | FDA 2025, Intro lines 16-22: 'credibility of an AI model for a particular context of use (COU)' |
| 7 | SARAH | FDA's draft guidance is dated January 2025 and titled Considerations for the Use of Artificial Intelligence to Support Regulatory Decision-Making for Drug and Biological Products. | SUPPORTED | Title page: 'Considerations for the Use of Artificial Intelligence to Support Regulatory Decision-Making for Drug and Biological Products … DRAFT GUIDANCE … January 2025' |
| 11 | SARAH | The FDA draft lays out a seven-step framework. | SUPPORTED | IV.A lines 117-119: 'the following 7-step process' |
| 11 | SARAH | The first three steps of the FDA framework do not mention model architecture or accuracy. | SUPPORTED | IV.A.1–3 (lines 150-257) read in full: 'architecture' first appears in step 4 (line 312), 'accuracy' in step 4.a.iii (line 401) |
| 11 | SARAH | The FDA draft defines the question of interest as 'the specific question, decision, or concern being addressed by the AI model'. | SUPPORTED | IV.A.1 line 152-153, verbatim |
| 11 | SARAH | The FDA draft defines context of use as 'the specific role and scope of the AI model used to address a question of interest'. | SUPPORTED | IV.A.2 line 183-184, verbatim |
| 11 | SARAH | The FDA draft says the context of use should state whether other information will be used alongside the model output to answer the question. | SUPPORTED | IV.A.2 line 186-187: 'a statement on whether other information … will be used in conjunction with the model output to answer the question of interest' |
| 13 | SARAH | The FDA draft defines model risk as a combination of two factors, model influence and decision consequence. | SUPPORTED | IV.A.3 lines 211-217: 'Model risk is a combination of two factors: (a) model influence … and (b) decision consequence' |
| 13 | SARAH | The FDA draft defines model influence as 'the contribution of the evidence derived from the AI model relative to other contributing evidence'. | SUPPORTED | IV.A.3 line 212-216, verbatim (sentence continues 'used to inform the question of interest') |
| 13 | SARAH | The FDA draft defines decision consequence as 'the significance of an adverse outcome resulting from an incorrect decision'. | SUPPORTED | IV.A.3 line 216-220 and footnote 22, verbatim |
| 13 | SARAH | The FDA draft combines influence and consequence in a matrix shown as Figure 1, with model risk rising as either rises. | SUPPORTED | Figure 1 caption: 'The model risk moves from low to high as decision consequence or model influence increases. The ratings … are independently determined.' |
| 15 | SARAH | A footnote in the FDA draft says decision consequence is the potential outcome of the overall decision, outside the scope of the AI model and irrespective of how modelling is used. | SUPPORTED | Footnote 22: 'the potential outcome of the overall decision that is made by answering the question of interest, outside of the scope of the AI model and irrespective of how modeling is used' |
| 17 | SARAH | The FDA draft says model risk is 'the possibility that the AI model output may lead to an incorrect decision that could result in an adverse outcome' and 'not risk intrinsic to the model'. | SUPPORTED | IV.A.3 lines 223-227, verbatim |
| 17 | SARAH | In the FDA draft, data quality, drift and the model's limitations are addressed in step four (the credibility assessment plan), not as inputs to the model-risk grade. | SUPPORTED | Step 4.a.ii data fit for the COU; 4.b 'data drift'; 4.b line 466 'limitations of the modeling approach, including potential biases' |
| 19 | SARAH | The FDA draft's clinical example concerns Drug A with a life-threatening adverse reaction and an AI model to decide which trial participants can skip 24-hour inpatient monitoring. | SUPPORTED | IV.A.1 lines 155-161: 'Drug A … associated with a life-threatening drug-related adverse reaction … 24-hour inpatient monitoring' |
| 19 | SARAH | In the clinical example the draft's scope says only the AI model will be used to determine who is low risk; influence high, consequence high, model risk high. | SUPPORTED | Lines 195-197: 'only the AI model will be used to determine whether the participant is considered low risk'; lines 239-241: 'the model risk for this COU is high' |
| 21 | SARAH | ASME V&V 40 sections 2, 3 and 4 define question of interest, context of use, and model risk as influence combined with consequence. | SUPPORTED | FDA 2025 footnote 13: question of interest, COU and 'assessment of model risk … outlined in sections 2, 3, and 4 of the ASME V&V40 standard'; FDA 2023 p.17: 'following ASME V&V 40, which considers model risk as a combination of two factors, model influence and decision consequence' |
| 23 | SARAH | A footnote in the FDA 2025 draft says the high-level concepts of steps 1 through 3 were informed by ASME V&V 40 sections 2, 3 and 4, applied to AI. | SUPPORTED | FDA 2025 footnote 13: concepts of 'sections IV.A.1 through A.3 … were informed by … (ASME V&V40) … sections 2, 3, and 4' |
| 31 | SARAH | The FDA draft gives two worked examples, one of which is manufacturing. | SUPPORTED | IV.A lines 138-141: 'two examples … One example involves AI use in clinical development and the other involves AI use in manufacturing' |
| 31 | SARAH | In the manufacturing example, Drug B is a parenteral in a multidose vial and fill volume is a critical quality attribute for release. | SUPPORTED | IV.A.1 lines 166-168: 'Drug B is a parenteral injectable dispensed in a multidose vial. The volume is a critical quality attribute for the release' |
| 31 | SARAH | The manufacturer proposes an AI-based visual analysis system doing 100 percent automated assessment of fill level to identify deviations. | SUPPORTED | IV.A.1 lines 168-170, verbatim |
| 31 | SARAH | The example's question of interest is, in the draft's words, 'Do vials of Drug B meet established fill volume specifications?' | SUPPORTED | IV.A.1 lines 170-171, verbatim |
| 33 | SARAH | In the example the model analyses images of vials to determine whether a volume deviation has occurred, and independent verification on a representative sample of each batch means the model is not the sole determinant for release. | SUPPORTED | IV.A.2 lines 201-206, verbatim |
| 35 | SARAH | The draft says releasing vials that do not meet fill volume could lead to medication errors, mentioning inability to withdraw the labelled content or pooling vials to make a dose. | SUPPORTED | IV.A.3 lines 244-247: 'inability to withdraw labeled content or pooling of vials to obtain a single dose' |
| 35 | SARAH | In the example decision consequence is high, model influence is low because release testing measures fill volume on a sample, and model risk is medium. | SUPPORTED | IV.A.3 lines 247-253: consequence high, influence low, 'the model risk for this COU is medium' |
| 39 | SARAH | In step seven, when credibility is not sufficiently established for the model risk, the draft lists five outcomes, the first being that the sponsor may downgrade the model influence by incorporating additional types of evidence. | SUPPORTED | IV.A.7 lines 500-508: outcomes (1)–(5); '(1) the sponsor may downgrade the model influence by incorporating additional types of evidence' |
| 41 | SARAH | Step four is to develop a credibility assessment plan describing the model, the data and training, and how the model will be evaluated. | SUPPORTED | IV.A.4 lines 262-263 and subsection headings a.i–iii, b |
| 41 | SARAH | Step five is to execute the plan, ideally after discussing it with FDA. | SUPPORTED | IV.A.5 lines 474-477: 'discussing the plan with FDA prior to execution may help' |
| 41 | SARAH | Step six is to document results in a credibility assessment report including deviations from the plan; the report may go into a submission or be held and made available on request, for instance during an inspection. | SUPPORTED | IV.A.6 lines 486-495: 'credibility assessment report … any deviations … (2) held and made available to FDA on request (e.g., during an inspection)' |
| 41 | SARAH | Step seven is to determine whether the model is adequate for its context of use, with five outcomes if it is not. | SUPPORTED | IV.A.7 lines 497-508 |
| 43 | SARAH | The draft says the two examples do not extend beyond step three because the step-four activities are a general list and the appropriate activities depend on programme specifics a hypothetical cannot capture. | SUPPORTED | IV.A lines 141-145: 'do not extend beyond step 3 because the credibility assessment activities listed in step 4 are intended to provide a general list' |
| 45 | SARAH | Early engagement is its own section of the FDA draft. | SUPPORTED | Section IV.C 'Early Engagement' (line 569) |
| 45 | SARAH | For manufacturing, the draft names CDER's Emerging Technology Program and CBER's Advanced Technologies Team as early-engagement routes. | SUPPORTED | Table 1, IV.C p.19: 'CDER's Emerging Technology Program (ETP) and CBER's Advanced Technologies Team (CATT)' |
| 45 | SARAH | The draft says early engagement is highly encouraged before submitting a regulatory application or implementing an AI technology for drug or biological product manufacturing. | SUPPORTED | Table 1, p.19: 'Early engagement with the ETP or CATT is highly encouraged before submitting a regulatory application or implementing an AI technology for drug or biological product manufacturing' |
| 47 | SARAH | A footnote on the manufacturing example says AI in production and process controls must be implemented in accordance with CGMP and that the quality control unit's responsibilities under 21 CFR 211.22 and 211.68 apply. | SUPPORTED | Footnote 21: 'must be implemented in accordance with current good manufacturing practice … the responsibilities of the quality control unit described in 21 CFR 211.22 and 211.68 are applicable' |
| 60 | SARAH | In step one the draft says a variety of evidentiary sources may be used to answer the question of interest, including manufacturing process validation studies, and that these sources should be stated in the context of use in step two and are relevant to model influence in step three. | SUPPORTED | IV.A.1 lines 173-178: 'manufacturing process validation studies … should be stated when describing the AI model's COU in step 2 and are relevant when determining model influence as assessed in step 3' |
| 66 | SARAH | The draft's scope carve-out excludes AI used for operational efficiencies that do not impact drug quality. | SUPPORTED | Section II lines 47-50: 'operational efficiencies … that do not impact patient safety, drug quality, or the reliability of results from a nonclinical or clinical study' |
| 68 | SARAH | In step four the draft says that if a human is in the loop, the evaluation should address the human-AI team and not the model alone. | SUPPORTED | IV.A.4.b lines 446-449: 'consider the performance of the human-AI team, rather than just the performance of the model in isolation' |
| 73 | SARAH | The draft says credibility activities should be commensurate with model risk and tailored to the specific context of use. | SUPPORTED | IV.A.3 lines 255-257: 'commensurate with the AI model risk and tailored to the specific COU' |
| 75 | HOST | The draft says to engage before implementing, for manufacturing, and the emerging technology programs exist for it. | SUPPORTED | Table 1, p.19, as above |
| 76 | SARAH | The draft defines fit-for-use data as relevant (including key data elements and sufficient data representative of the manufacturing process or operation) and reliable (accurate, complete, and traceable). | SUPPORTED | IV.A.4.a.ii lines 336-339: 'relevant (e.g., includes key data elements and … sufficient data that is representative of the manufacturing process or operation) and reliable (i.e., accurate, complete, and traceable)' |
| 77 | SARAH | The draft names the quality unit as ultimately responsible, points the life cycle plan at the site's quality system, and routes early engagement through the emerging technology programs. | SUPPORTED | Footnote 21: 'The quality control unit is ultimately responsible'; IV.B lines 552-555: 'component of the manufacturing site's pharmaceutical quality system'; Table 1 ETP/CATT |
| 81 | SARAH | The vocabulary came from ASME's device standard through FDA's 2023 device guidance into the 2025 draft, and ICH M15 arrived at the same terms. | SUPPORTED | FDA 2025 footnote 13 (ASME V&V40) and footnote 22 (cites the November 2023 device guidance); M15 2.1 lists question of interest, context of use, model influence, consequence of wrong decision, model risk |